That bad? Sounds like i will just stay with my H39, boost em up to 4 stars during fleet wars

Subs never been an issue in my cases, my lv 50 DD has hedgehogs for sub, and tier 3 guns for surfaces

After days of leveling...

Yeah, it packs hell lot of fun, i have better chances to win GB in DD50 than hipper 

Wow, now it sounds like a pcl, cant wait to try that out.

14 minutes ago, baldrick said:

Haven't got the O pro (requires gold to build), Bismark is fine. I'm still working on it - you can see the Bismark thread for more info and setup.

Don't write off the Gneisenau yet - I've got her (Gneisenau) to Vet status before getting the Bismark (at the expense of the SS and CV that are still 1 star)

Hmm, considering great improvement over the HA, i shall able to buy and messing with Gneisenau while continue farming for steel with my CA+DDs, 

when level 55, i will then fill the last slot in HA with a CV, then sub.

These 3 new babies should make me less bored when leveling to Bismarck, my dreamboat

1 hour ago, baldrick said:

I bought the BB (Gneisenau), but the lvl50 DD was not in the game at that time. I guess it's up to you and your game style. Another thing to consider is that you can vet the DD pretty fast (I did 2-3 days playing a couple of hours per day) while the BB will take ages (4000xp for vet BB captain in Germany) and also DD upgrades are considerably cheaper in steel compared to BB.

If you grind the BB for exp and don't buy experienced crew with gold you will hit lvl 55 before vetting the BB, another thing to consider if you aim to get the 55 lvl SS or CV.

In conclusion: I would get the DD as it's lots of fun, then save steel for lvl 55 SS or the lvl 50 BB (I'm not a CV guy).

PS sorry for complicating things more instead of helping

PS2 what nation are you playing?

Very insightful, boss. I am playing KM. Guess I will skip that BB1 then.

And that leads to next question: Opro or Bismarck?

28 minutes ago, Neuner said:

That would be my suggestions as well. You can easily reach lvl60 with DD50 and SS to have the next BB for the BB-Operations.

Okay, 2 votes for DD50, i shall try it out soon

What would you do next, buy lv50 super DD? build the 1st battle ship?

Upgrade the existing ships/ infrastructure?

Or, keep grinding until you reach Yamato, Bismarck, CV, sub, etc?